Agenda and minutes

Audit and Pensions Committee - Wednesday, 20th September, 2017 7.00 pm

Venue: Committee Room 1 - Hammersmith Town Hall. View directions

Contact: David Abbott  Tel: 020 8753 2063

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Minutes of the previous meeting pdf icon PDF 370 KB

To approve the minutes of the previous meeting.


A progress update on the ‘Housing Health and Safety Checks’ item from the last meeting is attached as an appendix to the minutes.

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Kim Dero (Chief Executive) noted that an update on Housing Health and Safety Checks actions from the previous meeting was attached as Appendix 1 to the minutes. She added that the Senior Leadership Team was also in attendance to answer any questions the Committee had on the risk register or any other items.


Councillor Guy Vincent asked for updates on the six actions from the minutes of the previous meeting.

·         Action 1 (page 1) – Councillor PJ Murphy had repeatedly requested information on the proportion of absenteeism caused by stress within the organisation. Nick Austin (Director for Environmental Health) said a response would be circulated.

·         Action 2 (page 6) – Councillor Michael Adam had asked how much money had been recovered from business rates relief for vacant properties fraud. David Hughes (Director for Audit, Risk, Fraud and Insurance) said a response would be circulated.

·         Action 3 (page 8) – St. Thomas of Canterbury final audit report to be deferred to the September meeting and the Headteacher and Chair of Governors to be invited. This action had been completed.

·         Action(s) 4 (page 9) – Councillor Loveday had asked a number of technical questions about the Service Charges 2016-17 final audit report. David Hughes said a response would be circulated.

·         Action 5 (page 11) – Councillor Mark Loveday had asked for the risk registers to be reviewed and updated. Mike Sloniowski (Risk Manager) said officers had completed a thorough review of the corporate and departmental risk registers and there was an agenda item dedicated to this later in the meeting.

·         Action 6 (page 12) – This action was for the Chief Executive to look again at risk management and take a more strategic view of the issues. Kim Dero said the risk registers had been reviewed and updated and she had asked the Senior Leadership Team to attend the meeting to answer the Committee’s questions.


ACTION(S) 1: Nick Austin, David Hughes


Councillor Mark Loveday asked why the update on Health and Safety Checks at Appendix 1 of the minutes hadn’t included an update on legionella and asbestos checks despite previous reports of backlogs. Jane Martin (Director for Property Services) said the water / legionella checks were now up to date. Gradient, the Council’s consultant, had reviewed asbestos management compliance, and with the recently employed asbestos manager, were working to deliver the improvement action plan by March 2018. The Committee requested a more substantive report on progress with the health and safety checks for the December meeting.

ACTION 2: Jane Martin


Councillor Guy Vincent asked if there was a timetable for the implementation of the borough’s new £20m fire safety strategy – ‘Fire Safety Plus’. Kim Dero said officers were currently costing the proposed capital works, from sprinklers in tower blocks to remedial works in low-rises. Appointments for electrical PAT testing and inspections of whitegoods and fire doors had been booked to visit properties where residents had requested them. The Council’s aim with the programme was to go beyond the minimum standards for  ...  view the full minutes text for item 1.


Apologies for absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Vivienne Lukey and Nicholas Botterill.


Declarations of interest

If a Councillor has a disclosable pecuniary interest in a particular item, whether or not it is entered in the Authority’s register of interests, or any other significant interest which they consider should be declared in the public interest, they should declare the existence and, unless it is a sensitive interest as defined in the Member Code of Conduct, the nature of the interest at the commencement of the consideration of that item or as soon as it becomes apparent.


At meetings where members of the public are allowed to be in attendance and speak, any Councillor with a disclosable pecuniary interest or other significant interest may also make representations, give evidence or answer questions about the matter. The Councillor must then withdraw immediately from the meeting before the matter is discussed and any vote taken.


Where Members of the public are not allowed to be in attendance and speak, then the Councillor with a disclosable pecuniary interest should withdraw from the meeting whilst the matter is under consideration. Councillors who have declared other significant interests should also withdraw from the meeting if they consider their continued participation in the matter would not be reasonable in the circumstances and may give rise to a perception of a conflict of interest.


Councillors are not obliged to withdraw from the meeting where a dispensation to that effect has been obtained from the Audit, Pensions and Standards Committee.


There were no declarations of interest.


Statement of Accounts 2016-17 pdf icon PDF 331 KB

This report presents H&F’s Statement of Accounts, including the Pension Fund Accounts, for 2016/17 and the external auditor’s draft opinion on the accounts.

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Hitesh Jolapara (Strategic Finance Director) presented the report on the Council’s Statement of Accounts, including the Pension Fund Accounts, for 2016/17 and the external auditor’s (KPMG) draft opinion on the accounts. Hitesh Jolapara tabled an addendum which set out minor adjustments to the accounts which had been agreed with the auditor.


Jennifer Townsend (KPMG) informed the Committee that they intended to issue an unqualified audit opinion on the Authority’s financial statements and the Pension Fund’s financial statements, within the deadline of 30 September 2017.


Jennifer Townsend noted that they had identified the following five key risks – but after investigation no significant issues were found:

·         Valuation of Property, Plant, and Equipment (PPE)

·         Conditional Grant Income

·         Managed Services

·         Pension liability including assumptions and having regard to the potential for significant changes arising from the LGPS Triennial Valuation

·         Valuation of Pension Fund Assets (Pension Fund)


Councillor Michael Adam expressed concerns about the reduction in reserves from £90m to £82m in just one year. Emily Hill (Head of Corporate Finance) responded that the money had been used for one-off and invest to save schemes, some of the significant ones being IT infrastructure costs, LED street lighting to save electricity costs, new pay and display parking machines, and Adult Social Care transformation programmes. These also funded one-off costs in relation to the managed services programme.


Councillor Michael Adam asked if officers had a projection of what further releases from reserves would be required over the next three to four years. He asked where officers saw the level of reserves stabilising. Hitesh Jolapara said that work was being undertaken as part of the medium term financial strategy process and information would be available in the Council’s budget papers produced at the end of the year.


Councillor PJ Murphy noted that KPMG’s report was positive but asked if there were things the Council should be sensitive to over the next year. Jennifer Townsend said the ‘value for money’ consideration would become harder – and new risks were likely to emerge from any transition of managed services.


Councillor Guy Vincent noted the figure under Contingent Liabilities (page 58 of the report) of £10m and asked if it related to several smaller claims or one large claim. Hitesh Jolapara said it related to a single claim.


Councillor Guy Vincent noted that there were an increasing number of Business Rates write-offs (Page 74 of the report). He asked if this was a pattern or if, for example, one large business had won an appeal. Hitesh Jolapara said that there was no specific factor involved in this and write-offs could vary one year to the next.


Councillor Guy Vincent questioned why the Housing Revenue Account dwelling revaluation had moved. Emily Hill noted that the housing stock was revalued every year – the previous year had seen an upward revaluation but 2016-17 saw a downward revaluation. It was also noted that the valuation of the Council’s Housing Stock was subject to a ‘social housing factor’ provided by the CLG


Councillor Donald  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.


Internal Audit Quarterly Report pdf icon PDF 417 KB

This report summarises internal audit activity during the period 1 April to 30 June 2017.


The reports below (items 6 to 10) are final audit reports that are either limited or nil assurance.


David Hughes (Director for Audit, Fraud, Risk and Insurance) presented the report that summarised internal audit activity during the period 1 April to 30 June 2017. The issues highlighted in the report were discussed under the relevant audit report items (6 to 9).



That the Committee noted the contents of the report.


Audit Report - St. Thomas of Canterbury Primary School 2016-17 pdf icon PDF 426 KB


Dave McNamara (Director of Finance and Resources, Children’s Services) introduced the report – noting that the Headteacher at the time of the audit had been away for an extended period due to maternity leave and the school had been through a period of changes that had contributed to the issues found in the report. A new permanent Executive Headteacher, Karen Wyatt, was now in place and had attended the meeting with the Head of School, Joanne Breslin, to answer the Committee’s questions.


Councillor Guy Vincent asked the school’s representatives if they had found the audit a useful process and if the issues found in the report now resolved. Joanne Breslin, Head of School, said they did find the audit useful and all recommendations in the report had now been implemented.


Councillor PJ Murphy thanked the school’s representatives for attending. With reference to page 310 of the agenda, he asked for some background on the additional payments to the Headteacher. He also asked if the school was now obtaining the correct references for new starters. Joanne Breslin responded that the systems at the school were far more stringent now and they were making sure all background checks were being carried out on new staff. Councillor Murphy asked if a teacher had been hired today but didn’t have a reference – would they be allowed to start? Karen Wyatt, Executive Headteacher, said they would only be allowed to start if they had an up to date DBS check and at least one reference. In answer to Councillor Murphy’s questions about additional payments – Joanne Breslin said the payments were because the Headteacher had reached the top of their pay-scale but continued to get increments. The additional payments had been agreed with the school’s governors.


Councillor Donald Johnson asked if the Governing Body acknowledged responsibility for the issues raised in the report. Karen Wyatt said they had, and a number of processes had been put in place in response to the audit. Joanne Breslin said there would be a skills audit of the governors and training offered where necessary.


Dave McNamara noted that officers would put together a summary of areas where there were consistent failings in schools.


Councillor PJ Murphy asked if there was sufficient challenge and robustness to the processes in the school and the governing body. Karen Wyatt said she had only been in the role for a couple of weeks but the audit did flag several systems issues that needed to be addressed. There were areas that the governing body still needed to work on. Councillor Murphy noted that it may be a cultural issue – systems exposed those weaknesses. Joanne Breslin added that the Chair of Governors had recently resigned and new Foundation Governors had been appointed so there was an opportunity for a newly invigorated governing body to take on these challenges.


Councillor Mark Loveday noted that having the Executive Headteacher and Head of School attend the Committee showed they were serious about the issues raised by  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.


Audit Report - Adult Social Care Contract Management - Elgin Close Resource Centre pdf icon PDF 673 KB


Mike Boyle (Director for Commissioning, Adult Social Care) and Lisa Redfern (Director for Adult Social Care) introduced the findings of the internal audit of the management of the Elgin Close Resource Centre contract with Notting Hill Housing Trust. Elgin Close Resource Centre was an H&F led contract that had been provided by Notting Hill Housing Trust since 2005. The centre provides personal care support, financial advice and support, practical and social support, catering, and respite care. Mike Boyle explained that this was an historic contract with little or no paperwork in place. Officers had been working to rectify this and a draft specification was now in place.


Councillor Michael Adam asked how a significant six figure sum could be paid out to provider each year without a contract. Mike Boyle replied that there had been a contract but over a period of time, with changes in software etc. it had been lost. A contract plan had been put in place though and would be on the Council’s capitalEsourcing system. The provision was a vibrant, active service that was providing value for money – there just wasn’t a robust audit trail in place.


Councillor Michael Adam asked on what basis were the provider changing the price of the contract year to year. Shouldn’t that process have triggered contract checks? Michael Hainge (Commercial Director) said processes were in place but they weren’t followed. The Council’s procurement and contract management functions were currently devolved to departments – but that setup wasn’t providing sufficient outcomes. There were plans to address that through a dedicated commercial function. Mike Boyle added that robust arrangements were now in place and officers would be reporting on all existing contracts to the Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care and Health in October.


Councillor Guy Vincent asked how many other contracts in Adult Social Care of a similar scale had these issues. Mike Boyle said there were now robust processes in place – all contracts were being looked at and reported to the Cabinet Member. Councillor Vincent asked that officers shared detail of those contracts with the Committee.

ACTION 4: Mike Boyle


Councillor Vincent also noted that the implementation deadline for all seven of the recommendations in the report had passed. Mike Boyle explained that all of the recommendations were contingent on having a formal contract signed – a meeting to finalise the contract was scheduled next week. The Committee asked for an update once the contract was signed and all recommendations implemented.

ACTION 5: Mike Boyle


Audit Report - Procurement Compliance - Community Equipment Framework pdf icon PDF 349 KB


Mike Boyle (Director for Commissioning, Adult Social Care) introduced the report and recommendations of the internal audit of procurement compliance related to the procurement of a framework agreement for community equipment for vulnerable adults. The equipment was ordered by professionals in Adult Social Care and Health on behalf of clients and supports enabling people to live in their own homes for longer. Mike Boyle reported that all recommendations had been accepted and had been implemented. The Committee noted the report.


Audit Report - Agresso Payroll Review pdf icon PDF 696 KB


Mark Grimley (Director for HR) introduced the report and recommendations of the review of the payroll service under the Managed Service contract with BT. The objective of the payroll audit was to provide a level of assurance to the participating councils that key payroll controls were operating effectively. He noted that the issues raised by the audit were familiar to members following the Managed Services Programme and said all issues were ongoing pending continuing discussions with BT. A strategic improvement board had been set up, leading to some service enhancements. The Committee noted the report.


Audit Report - Pensions Administration pdf icon PDF 642 KB


Mark Grimley (Director for HR) introduced the report and recommendations of the audit of pensions administration. He noted that a new pension administration contract with Surrey County Council began in April 2015, and the live operational service started on 1 September 2015. The client function for the service was undertaken by officers within HR – a shared service between RBKC and LBHF. Mark Grimley noted that the issues raised were again around BT Managed Services, though there had been improvements over time.


Councillor PJ Murphy noted that he had contacted Surrey County Council about a pensions issue and they were very helpful and efficient.


Annual Corporate Health and Safety Report 2016-17 pdf icon PDF 411 KB

This report summarises the safety performance of the Council from April 2016 to March 2017 and the aims of the Corporate Health and Safety Team for the year ahead.


Nick Austin (Lead Director for Environmental Services) presented the report that summarised the safety performance of the Council for the year April 2016 to March 2017 and the aims of the Corporate Health and Safety Team for the year ahead. He noted that during this period the Council was not subject to any Health and Safety Executive prosecutions, prohibition, or improvement notices – but was subject to 11 deficiency notices and three enforcement notices from the London Fire Brigade for housing deficiencies. 1500 working days were lost due to stress related absence, accounting for 14 percent of total lost days.


Nick Austin said the key areas of risk were in compliance areas – particularly housing – and to that end the Chief Executive had formed a strategic level compliance group with an operational group underneath.


Councillor Guy Vincent asked what actions were being taken in response to the worrying trend of increasing violence against staff. Nick Austin noted that the service had been working hard to improve reporting of incidents, including lower level incidents – which may explain the increase over last year’s figures. Incidents were taken seriously though and specific safety committees had been set up for affected services to look at what actions should be taken.


The Chair noted that there was a member of public who had been barred from the Town Hall and even arrested on occasion but they kept being allowed in – security staff didn’t seem to be aware of them. Nick Austin said he would look into this.


Councillor PJ Murphy asked to see what actions had been put in place in response to the stress related absence figures – and a trend analysis of the issue. He noted that previous requests for information on this topic had been ignored and questioned how seriously officers were taking it. Nick Austin apologised for the delay in responding to the action and said officers did take the Committee’s concerns seriously.

ACTION 6: Nick Austin


Councillor Michael Adam asked what was the average number of sick days per employee. Mark Grimley said it was 6.8 days – higher than the national average but around the public sector average. He added that longer term issues / conditions tended to drive the figures. Councillor David Morton asked what the rate of staff turnover was. Mark Grimley said turnover was 12 percent, which was similar to other councils.


The Chair requested another report in 6 months that covered issues that had taken place since the annual report was finalised, such as Grenfell and Parsons Green.

ACTION 7: Nick Austin


That the Committee reviewed and commented on the organisational health and safety performance.


Risk Management Update pdf icon PDF 271 KB

This report provides an update on risk management within the Council.

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Mike Sloniowski (Risk Manager) introduced the report that updated the Committee on risk management within the Council, and presented the corporate and service risk registers for consideration.


Councillor Mark Loveday noted that the King Street Regeneration item on page 426 of the agenda said the entry was confidential because of commercial negotiations – but the entry in the exempt agenda doesn’t mention commercial processes. Mike Sloniowski said that was a mistake and the item should have been placed on the open agenda.


ACTION 8: David Abbott


Mike Sloniowski noted that at the previous meeting the Committee had asked officers to review and refresh the risk registers. He assured members that there had been a thorough review led by the Chief Executive and the Senior Leadership Team and that work was presented in the appendices to the report.


Councillor Guy Vincent commented that it was good to see how seriously the Chief Executive was taking the issue of risk management and raising its profile within the organisation. Recent events have shown how important it could be. He asked why recruitment and retention had been added to the corporate risk register (page 475 of the agenda). Mark Grimley said the risk related to change management, the Moving On agenda, and uncertainty around pay in the public sector generally. Some key areas of the business had a relatively small talent pool – social work for example. This coupled with the turnover rate and the projected retirement schedule meant there was a significant amount of work to do to ensure the Council had the right staff for its ambitious change programme. Councillor Vincent asked what solutions officers had to those problems. Mark Grimley said workforce planning had already started, recruitment processes would be redesigned, and a new people strategy would be put in place – part of the ‘best employers’ scheme.


Councillor Donald Johnson asked what the current satisfaction level was amongst staff. Mark Grimley said he could provide the figure outside the meeting but the general themes were that staff were satisfied with their managers and teams – but dissatisfied with Managed Services, IT, and buildings.


Councillor PJ Murphy asked if officers had looked at the number of EU citizens employed by the Council and the potential impact of Brexit. There had already been a significant drop in recruitment within the NHS – was the Council expecting the same impact? Mark Grimley said he could share those figures with members outside the meeting – the Council was exposed in some key areas.

ACTION 9: Mark Grimley


Councillor Mark Loveday asked why there were no figures attached to the risk around the King Street regeneration project despite it being scored as a ‘high risk’. Jo Rowlands said figures could be provided outside the meeting. Councillor Loveday asked for the maximum and likely exposure to the Council.

ACTION 10: Jo Rowlands / Maureen McDonald Khan


Councillor Mark Loveday noted that he couldn’t identify the dissolution of the tri-borough arrangements as a risk on the corporate  ...  view the full minutes text for item 12.


Date of next meeting

The next meeting will be held on 6 December 2017.



The next meeting was scheduled for 6 December 2017.


Exclusion of the Public and Press

The Committee is invited to resolve, under Section 100A (4) of the Local Government Act 1972, that the public and press be excluded from the meeting during the consideration of the following items of business, on the grounds that they contain the likely disclosure of exempt information, as defined in paragraph 3 of Schedule 12A of the said Act, and that the public interest in maintaining the exemption currently outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information.



That under Section 100A(4) of the Local Government Act 1972, that the public and press be excluded from the meeting during the consideration of the following items of business, on the grounds that they contain the likely disclosure of exempt information, as defined in paragraph 3 of Schedule 12A of the said Act, and that the public interest in maintaining the exemption currently outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information.


Risk Management Update - Exempt Elements

This report contains the exempt elements of item 12.

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The report was noted.